tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post8365846531463979332..comments2024-03-13T10:36:43.374-04:00Comments on <center>Upland</center>: Chronological Snobbery (And The Sin Of Pride)Herrick Kimballhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-78704307080240217652017-01-08T22:03:00.192-05:002017-01-08T22:03:00.192-05:00This is the type of post that keeps me coming back...This is the type of post that keeps me coming back to this blog. I'm curious, is there such thing as chronological humility? Or perhaps, reverse-chronological snobbery? Sometimes I am guilty of automatically thinking new is bad and old is good... Regardless, keep up the good work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-14754139070688358952017-01-05T13:36:07.187-05:002017-01-05T13:36:07.187-05:00You might also be interested in these verses that ...You might also be interested in these verses that I have pondered for several years: Zeph.3:12 "I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the Lord." And Zech.11:10&11 "And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the Lord."Nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481454983461125697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-1108854607142136562017-01-04T23:04:50.301-05:002017-01-04T23:04:50.301-05:00Elizabeth L. Johnson said,
Wow, "...the poor....Elizabeth L. Johnson said,<br />Wow, "...the poor...and gave them vineyards and fields..." Amazing!! Excellent observation!Elizabeth L. Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06575027787161815772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-38449565760916699062017-01-04T11:05:50.233-05:002017-01-04T11:05:50.233-05:00Oh wow. I just went to Amazon and checked out &quo...Oh wow. I just went to Amazon and checked out "A long Obedience...," and I listened to the audio excerpt, and I did not hesitate to order an inexpensive used copy. I'm very excited to read it. <br /><br />I am so often blessed by the perspectives, ideas, and recommendations of those, like yourself, who read my blog writings. And I'm truly thankful for such blessings.<br />Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-49886551478910756472017-01-04T09:38:42.430-05:002017-01-04T09:38:42.430-05:00Hey again, Herrick:
I suppose that's one of t...Hey again, Herrick:<br /><br />I suppose that's one of the reasons I keep returning here: to confirm that what I'm seeing is indeed observable to others - sort of pinching myself to be sure it's all real! You're right, all we can do is our best to communicate these things; results are up to God!<br /><br />As to the matter of holiness you brought up at your church and here, again, I think you're spot-on! It calls to mind a devotional book of Eugene Peterson's I have returned to time and again for thirty years now: "A Long Obedience In The Same Direction: Discipleship In An Instant Society." In it, the author goes through each of the "Songs of Ascent," Psalms 120 - 134. Dr. Peterson wrote the book back in the eighties, but he remains prescient after all these years. Among other things, he deals with holiness as something made up of the commonplace, everyday stuff of our lives, and not just the dramatic events or even primarily the things we abstain from.<br /><br />For me, gardening, along with other things agrarian, then, help me to remain "grounded," both literally and spiritually. Among the many things holiness is, I have to believe it is down-to-earth, entirely focused on Reality itself!<br /><br />I think it's safe to say, we need a good many more folks with that sort of holiness, especially when rough times come along!<br /><br />As ever . . . .<br /><br />Gratitude and blessings,<br />David Smith Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-40955484863528388602017-01-04T08:45:00.120-05:002017-01-04T08:45:00.120-05:00A little addendum to this that caught my eye. As I...A little addendum to this that caught my eye. As I noted above, Jeremiah chapter 39 tells the story of the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians. The surviving jews of the city were taken captive to Babylon as slaves. But not all the people were killed or taken captive.... In verse 10 it says: "But Nebuzaradan the captain of the guard left the poor of the people, which had nothing, in the land of Judah, and gave them vineyards and fields at the same time." I've been pondering that verse for a few days now.Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-76357067841325070812017-01-03T18:24:39.337-05:002017-01-03T18:24:39.337-05:00Right on. John gives us an excellent definition o...Right on. John gives us an excellent definition of "the world" that Christians are called to have no part of.... Lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and the pride of life. <br /><br />1 John 2:16: For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-75558434242547135422017-01-03T18:19:56.081-05:002017-01-03T18:19:56.081-05:00Interesting. I used to listen to Dr. Laura years a...Interesting. I used to listen to Dr. Laura years ago too. Most of the time I thought she was great. Only a couple of times did I think she was off base. I haven't thought about her in some time. I'll have to Google her. :-)Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-64969404303883628822017-01-03T18:17:32.164-05:002017-01-03T18:17:32.164-05:00Agreed. Thanks for the comment.Agreed. Thanks for the comment.Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-6259186540318739602017-01-03T18:06:39.130-05:002017-01-03T18:06:39.130-05:00Hi David,
First question.... Short answer: I don&...Hi David,<br /><br />First question.... Short answer: I don't know. It may not be possible. <br /><br />But one thought is to loan people the new Beyond Off Grid video that is finally coming out this month. I watched the movie online the other day and it struck me as an excellent film for introducing Christians to the whole concept of Christian-agrarianism. It's sort of a tool for leading horses to water. Whether they drink (see the wisdom and act on it) or not is out of our hands.<br /><br />2nd question... Uh, yes. Purging is a good word. Last week in church the discussion was about New Year's resolutions. My pastor asked the congregation if anyone had resolutions. I mentioned the importance of pursuing holiness. Unfortunately, I think he interpreted that as me promoting some sort of legalism. (I had been listening to some sermons by Jerry Bridges, author of "The Pursuit of Holiness" on YouTube and was feeling a powerful conviction about the subject). Amazingly, I don't recall ever hearing a sermon in a Baptist church on the subject of sanctification. I've gone to Baptist churches for a very long time and I've been listening close for any discussion on the subject for the past few years. The way it looks to me, the New Testament has a great deal more to say on the subject of sanctification than it does on evangelism.<br /><br />When the economic collapse comes, significant decentralization and more localization makes sense. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. We might find out in our lifetime.<br /><br />Thanks again for your thought-provoking comments here, and over the years.<br />Herrick Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17116051416696885647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-54220678121553974642017-01-03T01:13:20.679-05:002017-01-03T01:13:20.679-05:00...as the serpent hissed in Eden....the tree was t......as the serpent hissed in Eden....the tree was to be desired to make one wise. As St John puts it - the pride of life. Phil Poggeauxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10528068263542083696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-39327409309662080422017-01-02T22:08:11.919-05:002017-01-02T22:08:11.919-05:00What you call “subtle sin” is what Dr. Laura calls...What you call “subtle sin” is what Dr. Laura calls “everyday evil”. (Or at least she did 20+ years ago when I still listened to talk radio.)<br /><br />I think both are appropriate terms. KBCraignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-72601216042304294632017-01-02T17:27:41.515-05:002017-01-02T17:27:41.515-05:00And pride, of course, was what Lewis identified as...And pride, of course, was what Lewis identified as the major sin in Mere Christianity. Good observation on the sins of society versus personal sin. This is one of the largest challenges to modern Christianity.<br /><br />Thanks Herrick!Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-426937534786021383.post-10686765287867668982017-01-02T12:14:45.461-05:002017-01-02T12:14:45.461-05:00Excellent ruminations, brother! Many follow-on qu...Excellent ruminations, brother! Many follow-on questions and ruminations in turn occur! Here's one: How do we continue to engage our world and especially our fellow believers, winsomely, without needless rancour, and without being considered mere Luddite curmudgeons? Further - and more vitally - how do I do so without coming off as myself prideful in my own "enlightenment"?<br /><br />Nonetheless, I can't help feeling that too much of the current Evangelical - increasingly urban/suburban - "leadership" is clueless, struggling to remain "relevant" (as others have commented on), or contenting itself to simply hold on until we're all raptured . . . or something, since it's all gonna burn anyway, right? Do I really understand that this world system, as you've indicated, resides in me and needs purging through God's sanctifying process? One of the problems here is that I tend to think of those problems in all too limited terms! I may condemn it, but AGAIN, like it or not, it's in me too!<br /><br />My sense is that if/when there is an economic collapse, we may not get much in the way of leadership from the likes of the current strain, but it may in fact come down to folks like yourself, quietly but firmly seeking to live consistently with what they say they believe.<br /><br />Maybe that's not so surprising, after all!<br /><br />In the meantime, looks like we have work to do!<br /><br />Regards,<br />David SmithAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com